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#116-06-2012 18:33:43

Painting tools & machinery

Just a quickie for some opinions on painting. Bearing in mind that I'm brush painting and that I can tend to be a tad anal in some regards, big_smile what type of level of finish would most class as acceptable when it comes to painting workshop machinery? Just work on the basis that they're tools which are going to be used and will get a bit acky, knocked, scratched etc., so just get them painted well but don't worry if the finish isn't mirror type perfect, or if there's a brush hair or odd small run in there, go the full hog and get it perfect, or somewhere inbetween?

#216-06-2012 19:05:20

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wouldn't give a shite to be honest as long as its all the same colour and better than it was. like you say it will be used, it's a tool not a museum piece.

best thing, if it's not perfect then touch-ups are so much easier.

ya catch ma drift? big_smile

#316-06-2012 19:07:32

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Icon - Post link muddle wrote:

it's a tool not a museum piece.
Quite a few of them are of museum age. big_smile

Have decided to colour code machinery type rather than sticking to original colours though. Metalwork related kit is all going to be done in a black blue paint.

#416-06-2012 19:17:18

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i would have said gloss black, with a 300mm brush so it goes over everything, even the chucks on drills....... yikes

#516-06-2012 19:22:36

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in fact, red looks good, not the red oxide colour but more of a post box red. comes up looking quite smart.

#616-06-2012 20:46:38

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Green is best

#716-06-2012 20:56:48

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Icon - Post link muddle wrote:

i would have said gloss black
Going with satin finish. Never been a fan of gloss finishes, personally.


with a 300mm brush so it goes over everything, even the chucks on drills....... yikes
That deserves nothing more than a good slap. big_smile


Icon - Post link Bio Hazard wrote:

Green is best
Brunswick Green is on the list. Just got to decide what that'll be used for though. Woodwork kit is going to be a dark maroon or burgundy type colour, so once woodwork and metalwork related kit are spoken for, what's left? big_smile Suppose I could always do the Amanco in good old fashioned Brunswick Green, instead of that poxy Carnation Red the yanks insisted on using. big_smile That'd be a good possibility. Use green for any engines.

#816-06-2012 20:59:31

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Metal = green it's a copper thing  lol

#916-06-2012 21:01:12

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No runs where it shows, no stray bristles where it shows. Casting marks and texture of the casting is fine.  If you use more than 3 coats you are playing with it.

#1016-06-2012 21:02:17

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Icon - Post link Matt wrote:

Icon - Post link muddle wrote:

i would have said gloss black
Going with satin finish. Never been a fan of gloss finishes, personally.


with a 300mm brush so it goes over everything, even the chucks on drills....... yikes
That deserves nothing more than a good slap. big_smile


Icon - Post link Bio Hazard wrote:

Green is best
Brunswick Green is on the list. Just got to decide what that'll be used for though. Woodwork kit is going to be a dark maroon or burgundy type colour, so once woodwork and metalwork related kit are spoken for, what's left? big_smile Suppose I could always do the Amanco in good old fashioned Brunswick Green, instead of that poxy Carnation Red the yanks insisted on using. big_smile That'd be a good possibility. Use green for any engines.
Light, mid or dark Brunswick green? whistle

#1116-06-2012 21:03:20

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Icon - Post link chillitt wrote:

No runs where it shows, no stray bristles where it shows. Casting marks and texture of the casting is fine.  If you use more than 3 coats you are playing with it.
lol lol Sounds sound advice.


Icon - Post link Bio Hazard wrote:

Metal = green it's a copper thing  lol
Not with Mr brass polishing fetish it ain't. big_smile Picked up some synthetic enamel yesterday to try. Satin black blue. Whapped it on the end pieces of that Van Dorn grinder and an old belt driven grinder today, as the test pieces to get used to this paint. It flows well, isn't too thick and doesn't drag. Realised fairly quickly that I need to be a bit more sparing with it though. The fact that it flows into itself so well after brushing on also means that it's quite prone to sagging/runs.

#1216-06-2012 21:05:13

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Icon - Post link chillitt wrote:

Light, mid or dark Brunswick green? whistle
Mid seems to have been the general choice of the English engine manufacturers who used it, from what I've read, but I'm slightly more inclined towards dark, personally.

#1316-06-2012 21:06:38

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Icon - Post link chillitt wrote:

If you use more than 3 coats you are playing with it.
Btw, does that mean three top coats or three coats overall? I'm already upto two primer and one top, with another top to go. whistle

#1416-06-2012 21:12:49

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3 coats of top coat. You can prime it as much as you like. Oooer...

#1516-06-2012 21:15:19

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Good. big_smile Thought I was running the risk of being accused of pleasuring myself there. whistle big_smile

#1617-06-2012 12:57:33

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Just thought of one thing. Working on the assumption of going with the green for engine and compressor equipment, (colour is unimportant to the question, but thinking about it brought this point to mind), would an airbrush be suitable for spraying areas of some things, to a reasonable level, or any they only any good for fine lines and the like? Been thinking that it would be a bugger to paint the fins of a cylinder head with a brush without making it look a complete dog, for example, yet don't want to go down the route of a full blown spray setup just due to the fact that it's a messy process, and I haven't got room to create a booth or blanked off area for spraying.

#1717-06-2012 13:23:44

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just paint it. surely if you spray part and brush part the 2 finishes would be completely different and look odd? assuming its on the same component

#1817-06-2012 16:34:04

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Icon - Post link muddle wrote:

just paint it. surely if you spray part and brush part the 2 finishes would be completely different and look odd? assuming its on the same component
Don't worry, Matt will talk and talk and talk about the ins and outs of the correct way of doing things but won't actually do any of them. lol

#1917-06-2012 17:12:54

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Icon - Post link Bushwhacker wrote:

Don't worry, Matt will talk and talk and talk about the ins and outs of the correct way of doing things but won't actually do any of them. lol
have you finished that hole of yours yet matt???

#2017-06-2012 19:19:59

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Icon - Post link Bushwhacker wrote:

Icon - Post link muddle wrote:

just paint it. surely if you spray part and brush part the 2 finishes would be completely different and look odd? assuming its on the same component
Don't worry, Matt will talk and talk and talk about the ins and outs of the correct way of doing things but won't actually do any of them. lol
ha ha fair one. better to talk about stuff and have an active forum than a dead one. could just dip stuff in the paint can...... neutral

#2117-06-2012 21:01:27

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Icon - Post link Bushwhacker wrote:

Don't worry, Matt will talk and talk and talk about the ins and outs of the correct way of doing things but won't actually do any of them. lol
Fecker. big_smile I have actually started with the painting. :smug: Just wondered how capable an airbrush was with regards to covering larger areas though. Never used one myself, so no idea what their spray pattern and coverage are like. Probably not be too long before I get round to doing the little Laycock/Bristol compressor unit, but trying to brush the fins would make that look a right cock, hence the airbrush question. big_smile

#2217-06-2012 21:02:46

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Icon - Post link BigBobE wrote:

have you finished that hole of yours yet matt???
Nope. big_smile There's pretty much sod all left to do to finish it off, if I ever have the inclination.

#2317-06-2012 21:05:40

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Icon - Post link Matt wrote:

Icon - Post link BigBobE wrote:

have you finished that hole of yours yet matt???
Nope. big_smile There's pretty much sod all left to do to finish it off, if I ever have the inclination.
See what I mean!  lol

#2417-06-2012 21:09:05

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That's different though. big_smile It's not that I wouldn't theoretically like to finish it off and get a workshop built in there. It's just that there's naff all point doing it here.

#2517-06-2012 22:08:10

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well fill it in again then
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